JasonB Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 Have just asked the stupid experts on their facebook page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted May 23, 2019 Report Share Posted May 23, 2019 Response: ' The Stupid Experts (Ally here) Listening to the track with my daughter and she started fist pumping to it (she was barely 1 year old)... had a play around with the melody and made the track... she loved it (as she does most dance music I play for her)... it needed a name (as you say, there isn't one!) so named it after my daughter... was her that inspired the remake after all, so what better name to give the track!? We'd love to find out who made that elusive tune too... what a belter! ' That clears that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAP Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 On 5/17/2019 at 7:26 PM, JasonB said: Sorry? dont you mean Rich Mowatt aka Solarstone? John fleming runs JOOF not Pure Trance or Pure Progressive! . I personally dont think he has any clue or idea. He played a remix of motorcycle and said on his show that the remixer got hold of the acapella illegally or something, Rich was totally unaware that G&D themselves made the acapella available to download on their soundcloud (you still can now) to celebrate 10 years of the originally release and endorsed people dong new remixes using it. Shows how Rich Solarstone is caught up inside his own Pure brand bubble and has little to no cue as to whatever is going on outside of it. As to the fabled unknown track, the stupid experts were obviously fans of it so have recreated it in their own style. I know they are friends of Cliffy Burrows, better off asking him or the stupid experts who hes freidns with about it. Hmmm, I read on either the Blackhole records page or one of The Stupid Experts pages that it was released via J00F Recordings (their original releases defiantly were along with one of their most recent). Oh well, who knows as Its all irrelevant now anyway. They didn't reply to any of my messages....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastication_man Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Listened to this set this morning for the first time since about 2003. To my ears this tune has a few hallmarks of the Rob Searle remixes from about that time. His Facebook seems to be active, so I'll ask him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 So I was just playing pulser - cloudwalking again and I swear it’s the same producer as the unknown - unknown I just feel it in my bones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakeface Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Stumbled on this thread yesterday. I remembered seeing the thread on tranceaddict all those years ago, and had totally forgot about it. On first listen again, it didn't really 'grab' me. But after a few plays, I love it. Because of the contrast between the guitar and keyboard. First instinct was Rocco & Heist. But they have been contacted. It could be something by Pulser. The synths give me that feeling, plus the snares and arpeggio. If it isn't by him. It could have something to do with the atcr (a trance communication release) record label, or sublabels. Defunct now, but they always churned out quality, and this tune fits their 'sound'. Mabye you could contact Tim Stark who ran the label. I think he still reviews trance for dj magazine. Might be another dead end, but you never know! As somebody said on the previous page. Paul van Dyk played it. I can totally get that, especially with the presence of that keyboard riff. Because that really fitted his playing style, especially back then. The bassline is kinda smokey. It really reminded me of Andy Lings 'Fixation' Anyway. Jules obviously thought it was a special tune because he played it last, and on Radio one. Perhaps the plug got pulled on it, after this airing. Mabye he had something to do with it because of the Ry Cooder reference. If it was scrapped due to copyright. The tune would still smash it without the guitar. Or it could just be a one off acetate, with no info, which is long gone by now. Frustrating, because the track is a little gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 aNY AUDIO PROOF THAT PAUL VAN DYK PLAYED IT? sorry caps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzY-LogiC Posted August 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 hmm, come to think of it, I can relate to the idea that PvD might have played it... as in, he and Jules did share some sometimes rare tunes. Would love to see/hear proof though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzY-LogiC Posted August 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 4/29/2019 at 11:44 PM, WAP said: "For Alice is certainly a beautiful record with lush piano, synth brass and ethereal whammy guitar layers" .....Lush piano.... see what they did there? Lush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzY-LogiC Posted August 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 6/2/2019 at 11:53 PM, Number2Fan said: So I was just playing pulser - cloudwalking again and I swear it’s the same producer as the unknown - unknown I just feel it in my bones. I've been down the Pulser road many times to try and find some weird unreleased track done by a Pulser alias, but never found anything promising. However, having looked at Pulser's old website through the "wayback machine's lookingglass" I can see he did a remix of a track that I can't find any connection to. "Elemental - I Want You (Pulser Mix)" (white label) Can be seen referenced here: http://web.archive.org/web/20030804041814/http://www.cloudwalking.com/remixography.htm and here: http://www.ivibes.org/index.php?show=Artist&id=33 But that's it. There is no 'Elemental' artist on Discogs that matches anything trance related... as far as I can see. Anyone know of this tune? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkypete Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 i wonder if anyone has this on vinyl or do you think it just got scrapped. is Andy Perring not able to be contacted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Hes not on any social media channels, so tracking him down may be tricky. Hes out of making music according to Matt darey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanmiskimmin Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 20 years later, we still don’t know who made this belter! the mystery is amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulH Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Any news on this?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzY-LogiC Posted June 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2020 Here's to hoping Jules will drop this tomorrow on his Lush! tribute set and finally reveal what the track is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy condie Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Haha no chance! Jules needs to make a global appeal, I’m gonna speak to Amanda and see if Jules will do it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkypete Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 Having scrolled through Youtube ive read so much about this track including the following that "Judge Jules chucked it in to the crowd after the gig and also some claimed that their friends has the tune but he hasnt spoke to his friend in ten years. "The Truth is Outhere" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burien Posted June 14, 2020 Report Share Posted June 14, 2020 i think we are verry close to somefing a member mark 1 You’re not going to believe me , but I was at Kelly,s (lush) that night a my friend was given this record by the DJ , it’s was just a white label, he still has it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piusmartin Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Michael Woods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy condie Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 Defo not Michael Woods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy condie Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 The Ry Cooder story is pants btw I’ve listened to the whole album countless times. The guitar sound is an electronic synth & if you listen to both (ID track & Paris Texas) you can hear it sounds nothing like a guitar. The only thing similarities is a pitch bend, that’s it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy condie Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 Confirmed by a well known top producer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Carlyon Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 8/30/2009 at 10:31 PM, Craig said: i think its jules.... but im sure he played this in the studio, on a fri ngt hot mix??? so hes played it twice, once on the road and in the studio, im so sure of it! good for u tim, goodluck with the rmx Can't believe this has still not been identified. I bet Max Braiman who is a trance producer and sound designer on YouTube could recreate this pretty accurately. These are some of his old productions from 9 years' ago and he is even better today and does regular music production tutorials: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 7:13 PM, Mark Carlyon said: Can't believe this has still not been identified. I bet Max Braiman who is a trance producer and sound designer on YouTube could recreate this pretty accurately. These are some of his old productions from 9 years' ago and he is even better today and does regular music production tutorials: A member of this message board already has buddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzY-LogiC Posted January 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) Not the real thing, but as close as it gets... the guy behind can reveal himself if and when he feels like it Proper remake IMHO! Happy New Year! Edited January 4, 2021 by FuzzY-LogiC changed YT link to official label upload 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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